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		<title>By: Dennis Mastriani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dennis Mastriani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of the state where the amendment
originated, I would like to see the court rule before the mayor of Pa. and his Philadelphia
socilists take our second amendment rights away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of the state where the amendment<br />
originated, I would like to see the court rule before the mayor of Pa. and his Philadelphia<br />
socilists take our second amendment rights away.</p>
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		<title>By: John Call</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Call</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 18:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU isn&#039;t anywhere near this issue. It was the American Civil Rights Union that filed an amicus brief on the cert petition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU isn&#8217;t anywhere near this issue. It was the American Civil Rights Union that filed an amicus brief on the cert petition.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 00:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU is a commie organization?  I always thought of it as a lobby for terrorists.  Osama bin Laden&#039;s lobbyist in Washington.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU is a commie organization?  I always thought of it as a lobby for terrorists.  Osama bin Laden&#8217;s lobbyist in Washington.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hoiriis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hoiriis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I did it again, sorry folks...time for bed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I did it again, sorry folks&#8230;time for bed!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hoiriis</title>
		<link>http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-takes-no-action-on-gun-case/comment-page-1/#comment-12901</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hoiriis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appolgies, I can spell far better than I type!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appolgies, I can spell far better than I type!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Hoiriis</title>
		<link>http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-takes-no-action-on-gun-case/comment-page-1/#comment-12900</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Hoiriis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I can&#039;t fathom is how the National Guard is even mentioned in a second amendment conversation. If you were to read the state consititutions of both MA and NH (states with polar opposite views of private gun ownership) you would find that the militia definition specifically EXCLUDES members of the National Guard from being in the militia.  Their definition of  militia is crystal clear that all other citizens over 18 are in the militia.  That then would be the &quot;people&quot; and not the National Guard have thier rights protected by the constitution.  This should be a non-issue and D.C. should not have been able to violate the rights of its citizens for over 30 years any more than Ray Negian and Eddie Compass should have been allowed to infringe the 2nd A rights of the citizens of New Orleans after Katrina.  The real question should be not wether of not SCOTUS will take Heller, but how the hell did this get this far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I can&#8217;t fathom is how the National Guard is even mentioned in a second amendment conversation. If you were to read the state consititutions of both MA and NH (states with polar opposite views of private gun ownership) you would find that the militia definition specifically EXCLUDES members of the National Guard from being in the militia.  Their definition of  militia is crystal clear that all other citizens over 18 are in the militia.  That then would be the &#8220;people&#8221; and not the National Guard have thier rights protected by the constitution.  This should be a non-issue and D.C. should not have been able to violate the rights of its citizens for over 30 years any more than Ray Negian and Eddie Compass should have been allowed to infringe the 2nd A rights of the citizens of New Orleans after Katrina.  The real question should be not wether of not SCOTUS will take Heller, but how the hell did this get this far?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus, can please explain your disagreement with Robert&#039;s analysis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus, can please explain your disagreement with Robert&#8217;s analysis?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Poulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Poulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert you&#039;re totally wrong.

No serious Con law scholar would 
give you much intellectual veracity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert you&#8217;re totally wrong.</p>
<p>No serious Con law scholar would<br />
give you much intellectual veracity.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Fennema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Fennema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ACLU is not taking our side Eric.
At least not at this point and probably never.
Remember ,its a Commie organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACLU is not taking our side Eric.<br />
At least not at this point and probably never.<br />
Remember ,its a Commie organization.</p>
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		<title>By: william collins</title>
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		<dc:creator>william collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoorah,john spencer has hit the nail on the head.
each and every amendment is for the individual,
and so is the 2nd. otherwise their all useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hoorah,john spencer has hit the nail on the head.<br />
each and every amendment is for the individual,<br />
and so is the 2nd. otherwise their all useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Poulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Poulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 02:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>November 20th is the day the next group
of orders will be released Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>November 20th is the day the next group<br />
of orders will be released Kevin.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Brian Crim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Brian Crim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we look only at history, the Second Amendment is an amendment solely of the militia clauses (Art. I, Sec. 8), and was designed solely to prevent the Federal government from using its militia powers to arm its own forces with weapons of mass destruction while it limited the state militias to slings and arrows.  The idea of using &quot;interstate commerce&quot; in those days to regulate firearms was off the wall -- they didn&#039;t even have interchangeable parts back then.  All weapons (even cannons) were locally made.
  
But, there is a Federal right to arms written deeply into the structure of the Constitution, itself, in the Treason Clause and concurrent treason statutes of the States, so a blanket ban by D.C. is unconstitutional for overbreadth -- it bans not only nuisance &quot;pocket pistols&quot; but genuine militia arms as well (e.g., my .45 auto-loader or .223).  Heller has a better case if he chooses the right gun (and brings in the Ninth Amendment as well).  It also helps if he pleads his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor.

I guess that makes me for Heller, though by a strange association.  In the same vein, I would assert that &quot;war&quot; in the legal sense is a condition which can affect sovereigns only (private warfare is illegal).  &quot;Warring&quot; on &quot;terrorism,&quot; like all previous such &quot;wars&quot; (on ignorance, poverty, inflation, &amp;c.), employs &quot;war&quot; as a metaphor and has no constitutional recognition.

Osama bin Ladin is no more than a pirate.

See The Ambrose Light (SDNY, 1887).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we look only at history, the Second Amendment is an amendment solely of the militia clauses (Art. I, Sec. 8), and was designed solely to prevent the Federal government from using its militia powers to arm its own forces with weapons of mass destruction while it limited the state militias to slings and arrows.  The idea of using &#8220;interstate commerce&#8221; in those days to regulate firearms was off the wall &#8212; they didn&#8217;t even have interchangeable parts back then.  All weapons (even cannons) were locally made.</p>
<p>But, there is a Federal right to arms written deeply into the structure of the Constitution, itself, in the Treason Clause and concurrent treason statutes of the States, so a blanket ban by D.C. is unconstitutional for overbreadth &#8212; it bans not only nuisance &#8220;pocket pistols&#8221; but genuine militia arms as well (e.g., my .45 auto-loader or .223).  Heller has a better case if he chooses the right gun (and brings in the Ninth Amendment as well).  It also helps if he pleads his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor.</p>
<p>I guess that makes me for Heller, though by a strange association.  In the same vein, I would assert that &#8220;war&#8221; in the legal sense is a condition which can affect sovereigns only (private warfare is illegal).  &#8220;Warring&#8221; on &#8220;terrorism,&#8221; like all previous such &#8220;wars&#8221; (on ignorance, poverty, inflation, &amp;c.), employs &#8220;war&#8221; as a metaphor and has no constitutional recognition.</p>
<p>Osama bin Ladin is no more than a pirate.</p>
<p>See The Ambrose Light (SDNY, 1887).</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Poulin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Poulin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then considering no certiorari orders for Heller
today how many people think it was denied?

I have been waiting for a preeminent 2nd Amendment case for MOST OF MY LIFE!

1939 - 2007 without a case is a bit 
of lackadaisical durational laziness 
on Supreme Jurisprudence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then considering no certiorari orders for Heller<br />
today how many people think it was denied?</p>
<p>I have been waiting for a preeminent 2nd Amendment case for MOST OF MY LIFE!</p>
<p>1939 &#8211; 2007 without a case is a bit<br />
of lackadaisical durational laziness<br />
on Supreme Jurisprudence!</p>
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		<title>By: William Gray</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merely allowing the lower fed court decision to stand would be a meaningless outcome.  There are no gun stores in Wash DC and no current system to buy handguns in other states and legally transport them to the Wash DC resident&#039;s home.  In addition, the current storage laws are not in play.  Having any fiream but having it inoperable as required now (permitted arms must be locked up and/or dissambled)is useless.  The home invader won&#039;t wait for you to get ready to repel boarders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merely allowing the lower fed court decision to stand would be a meaningless outcome.  There are no gun stores in Wash DC and no current system to buy handguns in other states and legally transport them to the Wash DC resident&#8217;s home.  In addition, the current storage laws are not in play.  Having any fiream but having it inoperable as required now (permitted arms must be locked up and/or dissambled)is useless.  The home invader won&#8217;t wait for you to get ready to repel boarders</p>
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		<title>By: John Spencer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesser courts are split, and the various interpretations of the 2nd are sometimes ludicrous.  It is time the SCOTUS, taking into account the obvious intent of the founding fathers, told people what the 2nd really means to the individual legal resident (not just citizens).

Remember, had the Second had been written to say: &quot;A well-fed militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to store and eat food shall not be infringed,&quot; in no way could that be interpreted to mean that only the National Guard has the right to eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesser courts are split, and the various interpretations of the 2nd are sometimes ludicrous.  It is time the SCOTUS, taking into account the obvious intent of the founding fathers, told people what the 2nd really means to the individual legal resident (not just citizens).</p>
<p>Remember, had the Second had been written to say: &#8220;A well-fed militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to store and eat food shall not be infringed,&#8221; in no way could that be interpreted to mean that only the National Guard has the right to eat.</p>
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