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		<title>By: Sine Metu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sine Metu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 04:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas explains why his dissent in Gonzales is not inconsistent with his dissent in Raich.  Unlike Raich, Gonzales did not raise the issue of whether the particular application of the CSA  fell within Congress&#039; enumerated powers.  The case was, in his view, strictly a matter of statutory interpretation, and the issue of Congress&#039; power was, as he says, &quot;water over the dam.&quot;  Although Thomas undoubtedly would agree that Congress has no power to prohibit Oregon doctors from proscribing lethal doses of morphine, he could not concur with the majority on that basis because the scope of Congressional power was not an issue presented to the Court.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas explains why his dissent in Gonzales is not inconsistent with his dissent in Raich.  Unlike Raich, Gonzales did not raise the issue of whether the particular application of the CSA  fell within Congress&#8217; enumerated powers.  The case was, in his view, strictly a matter of statutory interpretation, and the issue of Congress&#8217; power was, as he says, &#8220;water over the dam.&#8221;  Although Thomas undoubtedly would agree that Congress has no power to prohibit Oregon doctors from proscribing lethal doses of morphine, he could not concur with the majority on that basis because the scope of Congressional power was not an issue presented to the Court.</p>
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		<title>By: logicnazi</title>
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		<dc:creator>logicnazi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t read the opinion yet either but from what I read hear there is no inconsistancy with Raich.  In Raich there were specific congressional statues making even medical marijuanna illegal (either statue or FDA has deemed it a schedule 1 drug) and there was a broad inter-state regulatory framework to completely ban marijuanna.  Conversly in this case there was no broad regulatory scheme of assisted suicide and it seems pretty silly to argue that somehow preventing this type of treatment is related to the underlying goals of the CSA but I think they just decided the CSA didn&#039;t give the AG this power in the first place.
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What I have trouble understanding is how Scalia&#039;s deciscion here can be made consistant with his deciscion in the case stricking down no gun zones around schools.  I mean if the CSA can be used to stop assisted suicide just because it is a broad framework to regulate drugs (no way can you claim it is a broad framework to regulate assisted suicide) why could you not ban guns in 500 feet of schools as part of the broad regulatory framework to prevent people from doing &#039;bad things with guns.&#039;  &lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t read the opinion yet either but from what I read hear there is no inconsistancy with Raich.  In Raich there were specific congressional statues making even medical marijuanna illegal (either statue or FDA has deemed it a schedule 1 drug) and there was a broad inter-state regulatory framework to completely ban marijuanna.  Conversly in this case there was no broad regulatory scheme of assisted suicide and it seems pretty silly to argue that somehow preventing this type of treatment is related to the underlying goals of the CSA but I think they just decided the CSA didn&#8217;t give the AG this power in the first place.</p>
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What I have trouble understanding is how Scalia&#8217;s deciscion here can be made consistant with his deciscion in the case stricking down no gun zones around schools.  I mean if the CSA can be used to stop assisted suicide just because it is a broad framework to regulate drugs (no way can you claim it is a broad framework to regulate assisted suicide) why could you not ban guns in 500 feet of schools as part of the broad regulatory framework to prevent people from doing &#8216;bad things with guns.&#8217;  </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do however find it odd that Thomas joined Scalia&#039;s dissent
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do however find it odd that Thomas joined Scalia&#8217;s dissent</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>learning, I think you answered your own question.  He was more interested in pointing out the inconsistency with Raich than recreating his dissent.  I think Thomas hits the nail on the head - the decisions don&#039;t square at all.  His contrast between the CSA of Raich (a doctor cannot prescribe the commonly abused cannabis) and the CSA of today (a doctor can prescribe the commonly abused morphine) is stark.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>learning, I think you answered your own question.  He was more interested in pointing out the inconsistency with Raich than recreating his dissent.  I think Thomas hits the nail on the head &#8211; the decisions don&#8217;t square at all.  His contrast between the CSA of Raich (a doctor cannot prescribe the commonly abused cannabis) and the CSA of today (a doctor can prescribe the commonly abused morphine) is stark.</p>
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		<title>By: learning</title>
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		<dc:creator>learning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas seems to have written a separate dissent in order to make his comment about the inconsistency of the majority.  Oddly his position now seems inconsistent with where he stood on Raich.  Is there a reason why he couldn&#039;t have wrote a concurring opinion and still made his comment regarding majority wishy-washyness?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas seems to have written a separate dissent in order to make his comment about the inconsistency of the majority.  Oddly his position now seems inconsistent with where he stood on Raich.  Is there a reason why he couldn&#8217;t have wrote a concurring opinion and still made his comment regarding majority wishy-washyness?</p>
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		<title>By: The NJ Annuitant</title>
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		<dc:creator>The NJ Annuitant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think  Justice Scalia got it right in this case as well as in Raich. While I don&#039;t love the Federal policy in either, I do think that both instances are  within the regulatory reach of the Federal  government. I wonder how the majority will go when a state votes itself out of the Federal regulatory scheme in an instance that is not intangled with the culture wars.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think  Justice Scalia got it right in this case as well as in Raich. While I don&#8217;t love the Federal policy in either, I do think that both instances are  within the regulatory reach of the Federal  government. I wonder how the majority will go when a state votes itself out of the Federal regulatory scheme in an instance that is not intangled with the culture wars.</p>
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		<title>By: diapalino</title>
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		<dc:creator>diapalino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE NUTSHELL VERSION: HASH HISH - NON; HARI KARI- SI
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		<title>By: Kent Scheidegger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Scheidegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chikin asks, &quot;how does this decision square with &lt;i&gt;Raich&lt;/i&gt;?&quot;  Quite easily, actually.  Congress has unambiguously prohibited marijuana for any purpose, and the question was whether it had the constitutional authority to do so.  The Controlled Substances Act does not address the subject of physician assisted suicide at all, and the question here was whether the Attorney General could stretch it to do so.  That is an entirely different question.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chikin asks, &#8220;how does this decision square with <i>Raich</i>?&#8221;  Quite easily, actually.  Congress has unambiguously prohibited marijuana for any purpose, and the question was whether it had the constitutional authority to do so.  The Controlled Substances Act does not address the subject of physician assisted suicide at all, and the question here was whether the Attorney General could stretch it to do so.  That is an entirely different question.</p>
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		<title>By: r.friedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>r.friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems that &quot;our federalism&quot;, like the 4th amendment, has a drug exception.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that &#8220;our federalism&#8221;, like the 4th amendment, has a drug exception.</p>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read the opinion, so this is mere speculation, but this decision seems quite easy to square with Raich.

In Raich, there was a federal statute (the Controlled Substances Act) that gave the federal government power to regulate cannabis. But here, the opinion seems to suggest that Ashcroft usurped his grant of power, and was relying on an implied grant of power to deregister the doctors. If Congress passes a statute addressing this issue, then the AG would have the power that Ashcroft attempted to exercise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the opinion, so this is mere speculation, but this decision seems quite easy to square with Raich.</p>
<p>In Raich, there was a federal statute (the Controlled Substances Act) that gave the federal government power to regulate cannabis. But here, the opinion seems to suggest that Ashcroft usurped his grant of power, and was relying on an implied grant of power to deregister the doctors. If Congress passes a statute addressing this issue, then the AG would have the power that Ashcroft attempted to exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Boojum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boojum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chikin,

I do have legal education and am equally confused, especially when the CSA Reguations exempt from the statute&#039;s reach doctor issued prescriptions having a legitimate medical purpose.  One would think that prescribing marijuana for medicinal purposes would be valid, but prescribing morphine to cause death would not. . . .
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chikin,</p>
<p>I do have legal education and am equally confused, especially when the CSA Reguations exempt from the statute&#8217;s reach doctor issued prescriptions having a legitimate medical purpose.  One would think that prescribing marijuana for medicinal purposes would be valid, but prescribing morphine to cause death would not. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Kari Chisholm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kari Chisholm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, John Roberts told Senator Ron Wyden that he would NOT overturn it. Not in so many words, but it appears that he misled the Senator. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/01/did_chief_justi.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;See BlueOregon.com for details.&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, John Roberts told Senator Ron Wyden that he would NOT overturn it. Not in so many words, but it appears that he misled the Senator. <a href="http://www.blueoregon.com/2006/01/did_chief_justi.html" rel="nofollow">See BlueOregon.com for details.</a></p>
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		<title>By: chikin</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, how does this decision square with &lt;i&gt;Raich&lt;/i&gt;?    Are the arguments not essentially the same?  How is it that if it&#039;s morphine, the federal government cannot prevent a state from allowing doctors to dispense it pursuant to that state&#039;s law to end someone&#039;s terminal suffering, but if it&#039;s cannabis, it&#039;s different?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

I&#039;m a lay person with no legal education whatsoever, but the inconsistency rankles me, especially as I saw &lt;i&gt;Raich&lt;/i&gt; as a horrible decision by the fairweather federalists on the bench.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, how does this decision square with <i>Raich</i>?    Are the arguments not essentially the same?  How is it that if it&#8217;s morphine, the federal government cannot prevent a state from allowing doctors to dispense it pursuant to that state&#8217;s law to end someone&#8217;s terminal suffering, but if it&#8217;s cannabis, it&#8217;s different?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a lay person with no legal education whatsoever, but the inconsistency rankles me, especially as I saw <i>Raich</i> as a horrible decision by the fairweather federalists on the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 15:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also worth noting that Tom basically &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2005/10/my_thoughts_on.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nailed&lt;/a&gt; the voting patterns on this one.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also worth noting that Tom basically <a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2005/10/my_thoughts_on.html" rel="nofollow">nailed</a> the voting patterns on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that certainly clears up the question of whether federalism is dead!

The only member of the Court to take a consistent stand against federal power in Lopez, Raich, and Oregon was Justice O&#039;Connor, and she is retiring.  Even if Roberts follows in Rehnquist&#039;s footsteps as a staunch supporter of federalism, the bulk of the Court is all over the map on this issue.

Back when Democrats controlled Congress for decades, political conservatives argued passionately for the importance of federalism.  Now that Republicans are in control of federal legislation, you don&#039;t hear those passionate arguments quite as often.  (The reverse, of course, is true with respect to liberals; many of them have now become devout champions of states&#039; rights.)  It seems the same developments are being mirrored in the voting patterns of the Court.

You&#039;d like to think that a Supreme Court Justice, of all people, has a pretty consistent view with respect to the balance of power between the Federal and State governments.  And yet, we see the &quot;conservative&quot; Justices voting to uphold conservative actions at the federal level, and we see the &quot;liberal&quot; Justices voting to uphold liberal actions and strike down conservative ones.   Funny how that works.

It&#039;s ironic that Justice O&#039;Connor, so often criticized for deciding cases on a fact-specific basis without any overarching judicial philosophy, stands out as the only Justice who held true to her principles across the board in this case.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that certainly clears up the question of whether federalism is dead!</p>
<p>The only member of the Court to take a consistent stand against federal power in Lopez, Raich, and Oregon was Justice O&#8217;Connor, and she is retiring.  Even if Roberts follows in Rehnquist&#8217;s footsteps as a staunch supporter of federalism, the bulk of the Court is all over the map on this issue.</p>
<p>Back when Democrats controlled Congress for decades, political conservatives argued passionately for the importance of federalism.  Now that Republicans are in control of federal legislation, you don&#8217;t hear those passionate arguments quite as often.  (The reverse, of course, is true with respect to liberals; many of them have now become devout champions of states&#8217; rights.)  It seems the same developments are being mirrored in the voting patterns of the Court.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d like to think that a Supreme Court Justice, of all people, has a pretty consistent view with respect to the balance of power between the Federal and State governments.  And yet, we see the &#8220;conservative&#8221; Justices voting to uphold conservative actions at the federal level, and we see the &#8220;liberal&#8221; Justices voting to uphold liberal actions and strike down conservative ones.   Funny how that works.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic that Justice O&#8217;Connor, so often criticized for deciding cases on a fact-specific basis without any overarching judicial philosophy, stands out as the only Justice who held true to her principles across the board in this case.</p>
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