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		<title>By: SupremacyClaus</title>
		<link>http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-conflicted-over-file-swapping/comment-page-1/#comment-6487</link>
		<dc:creator>SupremacyClaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do any of the Justices own or use a personal computer?
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2005 18:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue at hand is creativity and american culture is being threatened. Ligitimate business has been drasticly effected. The &quot;guy in the garage&quot; may very well be your son or daughter writing the next &quot;Let It Be&quot; or &quot;Stairway To Heaven&quot;. However creating material that will be unlawfully reproduced worldwide, diminishes the value and chances of survival for writer, moviemakers, authors etc.. for our generations.

Where would McDonalds and Burger King and Wendy&#039;s be if I began giving away my burgers at a new franchise? Or we produced and delivered free gasoline at a certain station?

Are you really going to tell me people will buy burgers and gas from anyone if they can get them for free.

The scary aspect is that our children will grow up with the philosophy that they can get things, unconditionally, for their enjoyment, without consequence-for free. It actually discourages innovation, if you look at the issue from another perspective. What about software companies having their software &quot;swapped&quot; on-line. It is certainly an important issue of our generation for the future of the creative arts.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue at hand is creativity and american culture is being threatened. Ligitimate business has been drasticly effected. The &#8220;guy in the garage&#8221; may very well be your son or daughter writing the next &#8220;Let It Be&#8221; or &#8220;Stairway To Heaven&#8221;. However creating material that will be unlawfully reproduced worldwide, diminishes the value and chances of survival for writer, moviemakers, authors etc.. for our generations.</p>
<p>Where would McDonalds and Burger King and Wendy&#8217;s be if I began giving away my burgers at a new franchise? Or we produced and delivered free gasoline at a certain station?</p>
<p>Are you really going to tell me people will buy burgers and gas from anyone if they can get them for free.</p>
<p>The scary aspect is that our children will grow up with the philosophy that they can get things, unconditionally, for their enjoyment, without consequence-for free. It actually discourages innovation, if you look at the issue from another perspective. What about software companies having their software &#8220;swapped&#8221; on-line. It is certainly an important issue of our generation for the future of the creative arts.</p>
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		<title>By: NetFrelsi</title>
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		<dc:creator>NetFrelsi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2005 09:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Meira um MGM gegn Grokster&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petey, you hit the argument on the head.  Napster&#039;s centralized software protocols were why it was subject to liability previously.  One of the arguments here is that the next generation of P2P software, such as Grokster, does not suffer from this problem by being a purely decentralized software.  The biggest difference here is that Napster could look at exactly what was being sent over the Napster software at any time by maintaining the central &quot;switchboard server&quot; for lack of a better term.  Grokster, on the other hand, sends out the software and this time the P2P nodules connect directly to each other instead of through a centralized switchboard.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petey, you hit the argument on the head.  Napster&#8217;s centralized software protocols were why it was subject to liability previously.  One of the arguments here is that the next generation of P2P software, such as Grokster, does not suffer from this problem by being a purely decentralized software.  The biggest difference here is that Napster could look at exactly what was being sent over the Napster software at any time by maintaining the central &#8220;switchboard server&#8221; for lack of a better term.  Grokster, on the other hand, sends out the software and this time the P2P nodules connect directly to each other instead of through a centralized switchboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Petey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Petey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it far more troubling that they find Napster and Gnutella to be equivalent. I could be wrong, but Grokster functions on the Gnutella communications protocol, and is *extremely* different from Napster.

There *are* substantial noninfringing uses to Gnutella based software. MP3&#039;s can be shared legally--it depends on the particular file. If I record a guitar riff and put it up for my P2P network of choice, that is a noninfringing use. Certainly it *can* be used for infringement purposes--but then again, so can a CD burner, your email, AIM, and the Internet itself.

--Petey
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it far more troubling that they find Napster and Gnutella to be equivalent. I could be wrong, but Grokster functions on the Gnutella communications protocol, and is *extremely* different from Napster.</p>
<p>There *are* substantial noninfringing uses to Gnutella based software. MP3&#8217;s can be shared legally&#8211;it depends on the particular file. If I record a guitar riff and put it up for my P2P network of choice, that is a noninfringing use. Certainly it *can* be used for infringement purposes&#8211;but then again, so can a CD burner, your email, AIM, and the Internet itself.</p>
<p>&#8211;Petey</p>
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		<title>By: SFist</title>
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		<dc:creator>SFist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Supremes To Decide On Grokster Later This Spring&lt;/strong&gt;

Well, oral arguments in the MGM v. Grokster case concluded yesterday, and the reports from the scene conclude that the justices were very pointed in their questioning of the plaintiff, MGM. Reading different sources give us different impressions of th...
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<p>Well, oral arguments in the MGM v. Grokster case concluded yesterday, and the reports from the scene conclude that the justices were very pointed in their questioning of the plaintiff, MGM. Reading different sources give us different impressions of th&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Valley Watcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silicon Valley Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Mar 2005 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wary of stifling innovation and unwilling to countenance widespread IP theft, Supreme Court seems torn in Grokster case&lt;/strong&gt;

Supreme Court torn in Grokster arguments
With Hollywood and Silicon Valley,...
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<p>Supreme Court torn in Grokster arguments<br />
With Hollywood and Silicon Valley,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Interocitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Interocitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 19:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grokster&#039;s Problem&lt;/strong&gt;

Yesterday, the US Supreme Court held its hearing on the Grokster case. The plaintiffs (Hollywood) assert that Grokster (and by extension all other free file-sharing services) is solely organized for the purpose of stealing copyrighted material. They ha...
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<p>Yesterday, the US Supreme Court held its hearing on the Grokster case. The plaintiffs (Hollywood) assert that Grokster (and by extension all other free file-sharing services) is solely organized for the purpose of stealing copyrighted material. They ha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silicon Valley Media Law Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silicon Valley Media Law Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grokster arguments recapped&lt;/strong&gt;

Recaps of oral arguments in the Grokster case yesterday provided exhaustive accounts of the proceedings. Bloggers who attended the hearings provided early reports, including Lyle Denniston of SCOTUS blog who posted highlights, as well as Timothy Armstr...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Grokster arguments recapped</strong></p>
<p>Recaps of oral arguments in the Grokster case yesterday provided exhaustive accounts of the proceedings. Bloggers who attended the hearings provided early reports, including Lyle Denniston of SCOTUS blog who posted highlights, as well as Timothy Armstr&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BookBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>BookBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Copynight&lt;/strong&gt;

The night after the Grokster case was argued in the Supreme Court, a batch of Austinites gathered in the Club...
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<p>The night after the Grokster case was argued in the Supreme Court, a batch of Austinites gathered in the Club&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MrDave's Blog!</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrDave's Blog!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grokster Wrap up&lt;/strong&gt;


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		<title>By: MrDave's WebLog</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrDave's WebLog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grokster Wrap up&lt;/strong&gt;


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		<title>By: Calblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 03:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;One of the most important Supreme Court Cases of our lifetimes&lt;/strong&gt;

Some (even many) may think that I am being a bit hyperbolic in my title for this post. But I honestly think its true. As bad as the dilution of the neutral reportage privilege is in terms of free speech,...
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<p>Some (even many) may think that I am being a bit hyperbolic in my title for this post. But I honestly think its true. As bad as the dilution of the neutral reportage privilege is in terms of free speech,&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pierce Law IP News Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pierce Law IP News Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Grokster Argument Summary&lt;/strong&gt;

Courtesy of the blog devoted to the Supreme Court, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2005/03/court_conflicte.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;SCOTUSBlog&lt;/a&gt;.
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<p>Courtesy of the blog devoted to the Supreme Court, <a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/movabletype/archives/2005/03/court_conflicte.html" rel="nofollow">SCOTUSBlog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Baus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Baus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is plenty of software in an iPod.  From a hardware perspective it is pretty much just a harddrive in a box.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is plenty of software in an iPod.  From a hardware perspective it is pretty much just a harddrive in a box.</p>
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