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		<title>By: Kent Scheidegger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kent Scheidegger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not since March 17, 1879, has the Supreme Court faced a constitutional test over a method of carrying out the death penalty.&quot;

In fact, &lt;i&gt;In re Kemmler&lt;/i&gt;, 136 U.S. 436 (1890) considered a constitutional challenge to the electric chair and rejected it on the merits. The merits, at that time, meant that it did not violate the Due Process Clause or the Privileges and Immunities Clause, as the Eighth Amendment had not then been &quot;incorporated.&quot;

In &lt;i&gt;Gomez&lt;/i&gt; v. &lt;i&gt;U.S. District Court&lt;/i&gt;, 503 U.S. 653 (1992), also involved a constitutional challenge, this time to the gas chamber. Although the majority decided to vacate the stay on procedural grounds, I would still say that the court &quot;faced a constitutional test,&quot; although I suppose one could quibble about what &quot;faced&quot; means.

In dissent, Justice Stevens noted that the gas chamber was unnecessary because of the superiority of lethal injection, a conclusion &quot;of numerous medical, legal, and ethical experts.&quot; &lt;i&gt;Id&lt;/i&gt;., at 656.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not since March 17, 1879, has the Supreme Court faced a constitutional test over a method of carrying out the death penalty.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact, <i>In re Kemmler</i>, 136 U.S. 436 (1890) considered a constitutional challenge to the electric chair and rejected it on the merits. The merits, at that time, meant that it did not violate the Due Process Clause or the Privileges and Immunities Clause, as the Eighth Amendment had not then been &#8220;incorporated.&#8221;</p>
<p>In <i>Gomez</i> v. <i>U.S. District Court</i>, 503 U.S. 653 (1992), also involved a constitutional challenge, this time to the gas chamber. Although the majority decided to vacate the stay on procedural grounds, I would still say that the court &#8220;faced a constitutional test,&#8221; although I suppose one could quibble about what &#8220;faced&#8221; means.</p>
<p>In dissent, Justice Stevens noted that the gas chamber was unnecessary because of the superiority of lethal injection, a conclusion &#8220;of numerous medical, legal, and ethical experts.&#8221; <i>Id</i>., at 656.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Paulson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Paulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue of hanging, gas, electrocution etc. all have been matters of controversy in the lower courts over the years, so it is not like the means of execution was not a matter of adjudication, even if the Supremes did not ultimately decide the question.

[Various dissents from cert. suggested various justices wanted to ... Stevens in one opinion suggested lethal injection was the only legitimate means of execution]

Of course, lethal injection has not been a core means of execution for the last hundred years ... only for a few decades. And, other matters were focused upon as well.

Anyway, the issue here is the &lt;i&gt;means&lt;/i&gt; of lethal injection, and there is some good evidence that the &quot;protocol&quot; was set up in a shoddy way, and that a better one is possible given the quoted test.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue of hanging, gas, electrocution etc. all have been matters of controversy in the lower courts over the years, so it is not like the means of execution was not a matter of adjudication, even if the Supremes did not ultimately decide the question.</p>
<p>[Various dissents from cert. suggested various justices wanted to ... Stevens in one opinion suggested lethal injection was the only legitimate means of execution]</p>
<p>Of course, lethal injection has not been a core means of execution for the last hundred years &#8230; only for a few decades. And, other matters were focused upon as well.</p>
<p>Anyway, the issue here is the <i>means</i> of lethal injection, and there is some good evidence that the &#8220;protocol&#8221; was set up in a shoddy way, and that a better one is possible given the quoted test.</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Edens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip Edens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 04:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;An unnecessary risk of pain and suffering&quot;? We&#039;re still talking about a lethal injection correct? The fact that the Court hasn&#039;t decided on this matter specifically since 1879 says to me this is not an issue of dire importance. Regardless of ones views on whether or not we should have the death penalty in the United States I think we can all agree that lethal injection is as humane and painless as it can get, especially in following the 8th Amendment or that &quot;evolving standards of decency&quot; method. Though I must say if we ever wanted to bring back the method of the guillotine used in France it might substantially cut down on the number of filings on this issue as that was a fairly quick and painless method of carrying out an execution as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;An unnecessary risk of pain and suffering&#8221;? We&#8217;re still talking about a lethal injection correct? The fact that the Court hasn&#8217;t decided on this matter specifically since 1879 says to me this is not an issue of dire importance. Regardless of ones views on whether or not we should have the death penalty in the United States I think we can all agree that lethal injection is as humane and painless as it can get, especially in following the 8th Amendment or that &#8220;evolving standards of decency&#8221; method. Though I must say if we ever wanted to bring back the method of the guillotine used in France it might substantially cut down on the number of filings on this issue as that was a fairly quick and painless method of carrying out an execution as well.</p>
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