Comments on: Commentary: The partisan elephant unnoticed in the room http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/ The Supreme Court of the United States blog Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:38:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: George Hines http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14266 George Hines Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:08:50 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14266 Interesting quote from Sen. Jacob M. Howard: "The State of Virginia the moment she is admitted into the Union can by her Legislature, and in perfect consistence with her constitution, propose such an amendment to her local constitution as shall in effect disfranchise nine hundred and ninety-nine out of a thousand of the colored population of that State, by imposing a property qualification upon them, and it would be no violation of the Fifteenth Amendment… "The States have exercised the power of controlling, regulating, and restricting popular suffrage from the commencement of the State governments down to the present time. It is one of the rights reserved to the States, and is to be exercised in its fullness and in its plenitude without any control on the part of Congress or any question being put by Congress to them." <a href="http://federalistblog.us/2007/11/indiana_voter_id_law.html" rel="nofollow">Source</a> Interesting quote from Sen. Jacob M. Howard:

“The State of Virginia the moment she is admitted into the Union can by her Legislature, and in perfect consistence with her constitution, propose such an amendment to her local constitution as shall in effect disfranchise nine hundred and ninety-nine out of a thousand of the colored population of that State, by imposing a property qualification upon them, and it would be no violation of the Fifteenth Amendment…

“The States have exercised the power of controlling, regulating, and restricting popular suffrage from the commencement of the State governments down to the present time. It is one of the rights reserved to the States, and is to be exercised in its fullness and in its plenitude without any control on the part of Congress or any question being put by Congress to them.”

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]]> By: Kent Scheidegger http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14249 Kent Scheidegger Thu, 17 Jan 2008 20:06:16 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14249 John Fund has an interesting article today at OpinionJournal.com. It seems that the Nevada Democratic Party will be requiring voters to show ID at the casino caucuses this Saturday. John Fund has an interesting article today at OpinionJournal.com. It seems that the Nevada Democratic Party will be requiring voters to show ID at the casino caucuses this Saturday.

]]> By: Doug Muder http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14198 Doug Muder Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:50:33 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14198 A more traditionally conservative approach is to catch people after they break the law, not inconvenience honest people. So why not propose this: Videotape everybody who arrives at the polling place and asks for a ballot. That would not compromise the secrecy of their vote, and if they vote twice or are not registered in this precinct, you've nailed them. Problem solved without voter suppression. A more traditionally conservative approach is to catch people after they break the law, not inconvenience honest people.

So why not propose this: Videotape everybody who arrives at the polling place and asks for a ballot. That would not compromise the secrecy of their vote, and if they vote twice or are not registered in this precinct, you’ve nailed them. Problem solved without voter suppression.

]]> By: James Talor http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14167 James Talor Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:01:44 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14167 So let me get this straight... These voters don't have a driver's license or an ID card. And the Dems and the ACLU say these voters should not be required to get one in order to prove who they are at the polls to vote. Well, how did they register to vote? Don't they have an ID of some sort to register (or can they just give any name and address when registering)? And don't these unidentifiable voters drive, or cash checks, or board airplanes, or check out books at the library, or go to the bank, or rent videos? Any of these activities require an ID card. Do the Dems and the ACLU expect us (and the Supreme Court) to believe that there is any measurable number of people who take the time to register and to vote, but otherwise live in a cave and have no need for an ID card or driver's license? Sounds preposterous to me... It sounds like the Dems and the ACLU see their loopholes for stuffing the ballot box beginning to close. So let me get this straight…
These voters don’t have a driver’s license or an ID card. And the Dems and the ACLU say these voters should not be required to get one in order to prove who they are at the polls to vote.
Well, how did they register to vote? Don’t they have an ID of some sort to register (or can they just give any name and address when registering)?
And don’t these unidentifiable voters drive, or cash checks, or board airplanes, or check out books at the library, or go to the bank, or rent videos? Any of these activities require an ID card. Do the Dems and the ACLU expect us (and the Supreme Court) to believe that there is any measurable number of people who take the time to register and to vote, but otherwise live in a cave and have no need for an ID card or driver’s license? Sounds preposterous to me…
It sounds like the Dems and the ACLU see their loopholes for stuffing the ballot box beginning to close.

]]> By: Sean O'Brien http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14165 Sean O'Brien Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:35:32 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14165 The issue is not whether some incidental costs can be characterized as "paying" for the right to vote; the issue is whether the requirement to present an ID constitutes a poll tax because of some de minimis cost to acquire that ID. To call the expenditure required to get an ID a "poll tax" is to stretch the meaning of the word "tax" beyond its meaning. The issue is not whether some incidental costs can be characterized as “paying” for the right to vote; the issue is whether the requirement to present an ID constitutes a poll tax because of some de minimis cost to acquire that ID. To call the expenditure required to get an ID a “poll tax” is to stretch the meaning of the word “tax” beyond its meaning.

]]> By: chaka allen http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14158 chaka allen Fri, 11 Jan 2008 17:40:43 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14158 How can Indiana, essentially, require residents to PAY for the right to vote?? If the state ID's are not free, the right to vote comes with cost. This is COMPLETELY unconstitutional. How can Indiana, essentially, require residents to PAY for the right to vote?? If the state ID’s are not free, the right to vote comes with cost. This is COMPLETELY unconstitutional.

]]> By: James Talor http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14152 James Talor Fri, 11 Jan 2008 08:29:19 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14152 Comment by J. R. Blanc — January 10, 2008... "Attendant costs of acquiring photo ID usually includes cost of certified copy of birth certificate, if you do not have the original. In Oklahoma that meant a trip to Oklahoma City in person, no matter where your residence is. That’s no small effort for a non-driver, elderly, poor working person. It is a poll tax for all intents and purposes." * * * * * In typical left-wing fanatical fashion, the facts are over ruled with hysteria, lies, and knashing of teeth. Anyone can go to any number of websites to find birth certificates, WITHOUT having to travel to Oklahoma City. Don't have a computer?... well, the library does, as do most senior centers, etc. The liberals don't seem to have a problem fighting to have porn on city library computers, but woah unto anyone to suggest they use those same computers to order a birth certificate from the state registrar! And besides, how is it that the person doesn't have a problem getting to the polling place to vote (fraudulently or otherwise), but just can't seem to make it to the local DMV to get an ID card? If the Dems/liberals are so concerned about their voters not being able to get to DMV, then give them a ride (just like you do when taking them to the polls!) Comment by J. R. Blanc — January 10, 2008…
“Attendant costs of acquiring photo ID usually includes cost of certified copy of birth certificate, if you do not have the original.
In Oklahoma that meant a trip to Oklahoma City in person, no matter where your residence is. That’s no small effort for a non-driver, elderly, poor working person.
It is a poll tax for all intents and purposes.”

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In typical left-wing fanatical fashion, the facts are over ruled with hysteria, lies, and knashing of teeth.
Anyone can go to any number of websites to find birth certificates, WITHOUT having to travel to Oklahoma City. Don’t have a computer?… well, the library does, as do most senior centers, etc. The liberals don’t seem to have a problem fighting to have porn on city library computers, but woah unto anyone to suggest they use those same computers to order a birth certificate from the state registrar!
And besides, how is it that the person doesn’t have a problem getting to the polling place to vote (fraudulently or otherwise), but just can’t seem to make it to the local DMV to get an ID card?
If the Dems/liberals are so concerned about their voters not being able to get to DMV, then give them a ride (just like you do when taking them to the polls!)

]]> By: Daniel Evans http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14151 Daniel Evans Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:18:44 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14151 I am astonished at the ignorant liberals leaving idiotic statements. Or maybe I shouldn't be amazed because we all know liberalism is a mental disorder. Comments 18 thru 23 prove my point especially comment 18. Hey, grow up and stop acting like children. Right-wing this and right-wing that. My God, you sound like People for the "UN"American Way. Whenever you don't like a decision then all you cry babies start bashing conservatives only because your uneducated morons. Did any of you left-wing nuts graduate high school. If not go back, please, for the future of this country cannot tolerate such ignorant stupidity. Conservatives take responsibility for themselves unlike liberals who depend on the government for everything. If you can't get a photo ID then to bad because this is America where you can achieve anything unless your lazy or ignorant. I am astonished at the ignorant liberals leaving idiotic statements. Or maybe I shouldn’t be amazed because we all know liberalism is a mental disorder.

Comments 18 thru 23 prove my point especially comment 18. Hey, grow up and stop acting like children.

Right-wing this and right-wing that. My God, you sound like People for the “UN”American Way. Whenever you don’t like a decision then all you cry babies start bashing conservatives only because your uneducated morons. Did any of you left-wing nuts graduate high school. If not go back, please, for the future of this country cannot tolerate such ignorant stupidity.

Conservatives take responsibility for themselves unlike liberals who depend on the government for everything. If you can’t get a photo ID then to bad because this is America where you can achieve anything unless your lazy or ignorant.

]]> By: John Rogers http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14146 John Rogers Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:18:22 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14146 It's well to remember that Indiana had the largest and most active Ku Klux Klan in the good old days. Is it a coincidence that Georgia is the other state that wants picture ID's? It’s well to remember that Indiana had the largest and most active Ku Klux Klan in the good old days. Is it a coincidence that Georgia is the other state that wants picture ID’s?

]]> By: Duncan Hare http://www.scotusblog.com/2008/01/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14145 Duncan Hare Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:13:39 +0000 http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/uncategorized/commentary-the-partisan-elephant-unnoticed-in-the-room/#comment-14145 Supremes repeating right wing talking points. Or did I miss something? Supremes repeating right wing talking points. Or did I miss something?

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